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#1 by fbi
2018-11-02 at 18:16
Finished Nene's Route, deleted it.

Seriously, I kept waiting for the game to pick up and it just never happened. It just was what it was.
#2 by molester
2018-11-02 at 18:39
What did you expect from Yuzusoft?
They do the same formula all over again and again, they always make moege with different hights in quality, but nevertheless they do make one of the best moeges out here, so I don`t know what did you want from them to begin with.
#3 by rinchan3853
2018-11-05 at 02:23
#1 Did you seriously only read one route? There are 5 routes in total and you should've saved Nene's route (both parts) for last.

This visual novel is fantastic, a solid 10 all around.
#4 by ramaladni
2018-11-05 at 02:56
If he didn't like one route, is he expected to play the same thing five times?
#5 by fuukanou
2018-11-05 at 03:01
#3 pretty much anything is a solid 10 for you lol

Standards are different
#6 by kominarachromer
2018-11-05 at 03:51
#3 the day yuzusoft makes a 10/10 vn will be the day i fucking kill myselfLast modified on 2018-11-05 at 03:55
#7 by minah
2018-11-05 at 04:00
@6 We get it, you hate moege, give it a fucking rest.
#8 by warfoki
2018-11-05 at 04:25
Yeah, it's getting pretty tiresome...
#9 by protator
2018-11-05 at 04:36
Well, the second part was rather disappointing.
I mean, multiverse...timetravel... they had the opportunity to hit us with any plot twist they wanted.
They decided to go with: none
Just some more Nene cuteness and sex. The end.

Started my second playthrough with lowered expectations. It's not a bad game but I probably wont play all routes either. Main heroine plus best girl has to suffice. Too long a backlog for more of the same.
#10 by kominarachromer
2018-11-05 at 04:46
#7/#8 i almost wonder what you'd think if you saw the original version of that post...

Anyway, I pretty much agree with #4. but I'd like to go into more detail. I've mentioned this before, but the way that Yuzusoft's VNs are marketed is generally pretty misleading. You go into Dracu-Riot! expecting cool chuuni vampire shit, and you get one or two kinda chuuni scenes per route in-between generic moege fluff. In a way, I think that Noble ☆ Works might be their best title in English; it doesn't have any pretensions of being anything greater than it actually is.

I don't "hate moege"; hell, for me to hate something, it has to be worth hating in the first place. Moege are generally so bland and inoffensive that I can't even summon up the willpower to do that much. Usually, they just leave me feeling profoundly bored.
#11 by sakurakoi
2018-11-05 at 05:45
Yuzusoft's VNs are marketed is generally pretty misleading
Citation needed.

All I see on vndbs descriptions are moege, however it is the tags which suggest otherwise, with two tagging it who I do not know as Drama 3 and two I do not know either as 2. Only one gave it a -1. That is actually what keeps me from this work.

They decided to go with: none
Just some more Nene cuteness and sex. The end.
Color me interested~!

If he didn't like one route, is he expected to play the same thing five times?
Well, back in the day one forced themselves to consume works they regret buying (I did because as child my allowance was average) and now it is not rare for those to be lauded as part of the long gone "golden age", buyers remorse and emotional investment are scary... don't fall for it!

it has to be worth hating in the first place
the edge
they just leave me feeling profoundly bored
and the mortal sin

even if you say you do not hate it but your aversion to being bored is obviously obnoxious. I'm still waiting for the day where someone outlines non-standard, non-generic &c moe/slice of life, something that would revolutionize the genre! Even just a tiny bit...

Of course something like that does not exist, if anything what the genre aims for are extraordinary/special characters and settings of which there are obviously often implemented (to the point where they are not)... and at least the traits here suggest that no character is just the generic modern tsundere, kuudere, genki bokukko &c, without any more.
#12 by avaron1974
2018-11-05 at 06:50
Oh no, i'm sad.
Yay, I have a girlfriend, i'm happy.
Oh no, things happened and i'm sad again.
Yay, I have my girlfriend back and i'm happy again.
Oh no, more drama.
Yay, it's resolved kind of, sort of.

Nene's route in a nutshell.

Not normally a point for complaint, drama usually happens where romance is concerned in these because screw happiness. My problem was after the big drama was dealt with they contrived such a silly thing for the after story that left me scratching my head and asking why was that even a thing. After stories usually tie things up and sail them off into the future not take a half decent route and try it's best to nail it into the gutter.

I didn't mind Nene's route, ending was weak but overall not too bad but that after story was a steaming pile of sheep excrement and I wish I could unread it.

It's not the best thing i've read, I did skip a lot during other routes because the main part of the story wasn't all that interesting after 1 read but that's the same with a lot of these longer VN's. It's great they kill time but when you have 5 routes and those routes rely on early choices with very little variation in story up to a certain point it gets boring.
#13 by satsuki
2018-11-05 at 09:29
Yep, this is what happen when people go into a moege while expecting a top notch nakige...
#14 by sakurakoi
2018-11-05 at 09:39
To think that people are even too afraid to spoil moege, not even daring to use spoilers, like at all..

seriously, the lack of any context whatsoever is rather unsettling. Conclusions without examples become to be seen as examples themselves, in terms of being seen as informative at least. I sure can not use this thread to consider if I want to try this work or not and it's not because information is apparently contradicting but the information being so vague that one can not tell if it is.

At most I could guess is that the little drama which is there is NG but what kind of drama is it? Beats me~

and of course, one should really tell how...
those routes rely on early choices with very little variation in story up to a certain point it gets boring
the skip function can not serve its purpose.

Yep, this is what happen when people go into a moege while expecting a top notch nakige...
Well, like I already said, I'd like to know what raised those expectations to begin with, with actual tangible context. If it was not the user-defined tags and since the description sure reads like yer typical special moege.
#15 by komocakeps
2018-11-05 at 10:06
I gotta agree with the overall sentiment. It helps that the VN tells you what chapter + section you are, and if you figured out what the section is all about, you can just ctrl yourself out of it. It also helps once you figure out that a section is just one or two events expounded to create a wall of text, which sadly what VN writers in general tend to do.
#16 by ramaladni
2018-11-05 at 12:34
#11 Actually, my first VN was Clannad, I found a girl I liked, did her route and never really touched the game again. Felt like I'd be cheating,

I wouldn't really play different characters routes unless they were really different plot-wise. I feel that these type of games have lots of filler so as to prolong the experience as long as possible. Haven't played Sanoba, so I'm not talking about this title in particular, but yeah.
#17 by desertopa
2018-11-05 at 16:49
So, I knew going into this that it was a moege, and it's not like I'm hating it, but I'm still disappointed. If you never enjoy moege, knowing it's a moege is enough to know you're not going to like it, the specifics are unimportant. But there aren't many people who're going to enjoy every moege, and as someone who likes some and dislikes others, I feel like given its premise, this one had the potential to be something I'd enjoy a lot more than I actually have so far.
#18 by kiru
2018-11-05 at 17:34
The only thing I can say is, that Meguru's route is legitimately good. However, it's still very easy to dislike. After all, people don't always like thing because they are good or fresh or whatever. Especially when it comes to moege. And with Meguru... let's just say, you'd expect something very different based on common.
Yes, to an extend it's sad. But it's well enough written that I liked it like that. Once you get to learn more about someone, maybe not so awesome sides appear. Maybe they aren't as great as you thought. But ditching them for that? No. As long as it makes sense and it's not just your usual writer change or whatever going on, with enough effort put into why the character changes, it's okay. Unfortunately, the protag did never think along those lines, making it potentially weird, but well. Protagonists. He's busy being annoying with his "tasting" BS anyway.

edit: Bonus points for the dating manual. I really liked this a little more in-depth look into that. Wouldn't want it all the time, but I can tell you: I've read a LOT of things, and this is very uncommon, and even if it happens it's usually much more shallow. Makes the route more unique than you'd think.Last modified on 2018-11-05 at 17:37
#19 by bigriend
2018-11-08 at 04:52
The way the whole crew somehow get involved in helping the budding romance of MC at the start of pratically each route was pretty tiring too.
Not really my scene.
#20 by asaki
2018-11-08 at 06:40
Considering that the OP did joke with FBI there twice, I'll just think the OP here is joking again.
#21 by bunny1ov3r
2018-11-09 at 01:19
Don't give too much expectation for yuzu just because many other people give it high praise. I learned that long ago. You have to learn to separate moege players' reviews/comments from other vn players'.
#22 by komocakeps
2018-11-09 at 02:15
if you look at it from the *wasted potential* perspective then its easy where they are coming from. although its also easy to look at it as *teasing us with something that just leads to more fluff and nothing else*.
#23 by bobjr2000
2018-11-09 at 16:24
personal I always ignore everyones vote unless its all negative then I might pay attention. Its the usuall yuzu formula so not sure what people were expecting.

Its like people keep expecting madden football to be a different game every yr when its mostly the same game.
#24 by ramaladni
2018-11-09 at 18:53
#23 That's a really good analogy, actually. Japanese otaku get five different Maddens every single month.
#25 by alxan
2018-11-10 at 01:01
Oh no, i'm sad.
Yay, I have a girlfriend, i'm happy.
Oh no, things happened and i'm sad again.
Yay, I have my girlfriend back and i'm happy again.
Oh no, more drama.
Yay, it's resolved kind of, sort of.

Nene's route in a nutshell.

#12 you do realize that that is pretty much every route in almost every vn rigth?Last modified on 2018-11-10 at 01:01

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